PSA: Lifetime cost (There is another site selling it for $420)

Buck

Member
Looks like they increased the lifetime cost by $75 USD - a 25% increase! Either it's popular enough they want to capitalize or they're looking to restrict how many lifetimes are out there. Either way, if you're going to spring for a lifetime anytime soon, I would now.

$375 USD (and $75 monthly, more than quite a few of my utility bills!) is a pretty big pay barrier for entry. It definitely will ward off most people and make the bot more exclusive imo. Jury is out if that is for the better or worse however.
 

esyouele

Member
Looks like they increased the lifetime cost by $75 USD - a 25% increase! Either it's popular enough they want to capitalize or they're looking to restrict how many lifetimes are out there. Either way, if you're going to spring for a lifetime anytime soon, I would now.

$375 USD (and $75 monthly, more than quite a few of my utility bills!) is a pretty big pay barrier for entry. It definitely will ward off most people and make the bot more exclusive imo. Jury is out if that is for the better or worse however.
Yep! I saw that increase. I got the lifetime pass. I'm expecting more features as the bot matures, so it will be worth it.

Also the new forums with crypto for items is going to be nice.
 

SumDumGoy

Administrator
Staff member
Looks like they increased the lifetime cost by $75 USD - a 25% increase! Either it's popular enough they want to capitalize or they're looking to restrict how many lifetimes are out there. Either way, if you're going to spring for a lifetime anytime soon, I would now.

$375 USD (and $75 monthly, more than quite a few of my utility bills!) is a pretty big pay barrier for entry. It definitely will ward off most people and make the bot more exclusive imo. Jury is out if that is for the better or worse however.
Life time keys arent a permeant thing and will only have so many total in existence. They are like an early backer type of thing so once the life time keys are bought up its gg.
 

Buck

Member
Life time keys arent a permeant thing and will only have so many total in existence. They are like an early backer type of thing so once the life time keys are bought up its gg.
Good to know, I assume the increase is due to supply? More reason to buy now if you're interested and can swallow the price. It definitely is a good product when it's all said and done.
 

SumDumGoy

Administrator
Staff member
Good to know, I assume the increase is due to supply? More reason to buy now if you're interested and can swallow the price. It definitely is a good product when it's all said and done.
oh idk about price increase, am just a bot helper so i dont know about the stock of keys type of thing, i think hom and few people only know. Once bot starts to get more advanced is my guess around the time they stop the life keys if havent before. This is just a guess so take it with a grain of salt lol.
 
they can produce an infinite amount of keys, dont see how it could be a supply issue. i have heard him say explicitly that if it wasnt for the reseller he would have only the lifetime option, not the monthly one. there paypal account was capped out. they had to refund a bunch of people through paypal. they are making plenty of money. must just be an increase in demand and perhaps they dont want it to be available to the masses because it will increase the odds of banning for the rest of us
 

The Horadric Cube

Administrator
Staff member
You know there is a site selling lifetime key for $420? Plus pixel bot lifetime key was $200 by another site. We have had zhipei packet casting no detection yet, i have no issue providing multi key discount i sent some of you the link.

Should we only accept crypto for lifetime keys at an adjusted price?

I would think the marketplace should be in a different discussion thread as we are talking apples and oranges here. Being able to synchronize loot log into your user profile then press a create listing button to list items should be pretty convenient as we have some item shops already wanting to buy from our users for a steady supply of items.

I would think 1 marketplace for fiat and another marketplace for crypto could be pretty convenient.
 

esyouele

Member
You know there is a site selling lifetime key for $420? Plus pixel bot lifetime key was $200 by another site. We have had zhipei packet casting no detection yet, i have no issue providing multi key discount i sent some of you the link.

Should we only accept crypto for lifetime keys at an adjusted price?

I would think the marketplace should be in a different discussion thread as we are talking apples and oranges here. Being able to synchronize loot log into your user profile then press a create listing button to list items should be pretty convenient as we have some item shops already wanting to buy from our users for a steady supply of items.

I would think 1 marketplace for fiat and another marketplace for crypto could be pretty convenient.
It would be nice to see an ETA on when you expect to cut off life-time subscriptions. It wouldn't be the best feeling to see the lifetime still available a year or even 6 months from now. A cut-off date should have more people signing up, and it would make the lifetime buyers (i've purchased multiple) feel good about their decision.
 

Buck

Member
You know there is a site selling lifetime key for $420? Plus pixel bot lifetime key was $200 by another site. We have had zhipei packet casting no detection yet, i have no issue providing multi key discount i sent some of you the link.

Should we only accept crypto for lifetime keys at an adjusted price?

I would think the marketplace should be in a different discussion thread as we are talking apples and oranges here. Being able to synchronize loot log into your user profile then press a create listing button to list items should be pretty convenient as we have some item shops already wanting to buy from our users for a steady supply of items.

I would think 1 marketplace for fiat and another marketplace for crypto could be pretty convenient.

Not commenting on the price of other bots, and not saying this one is above or below market value, nor a I saying the price isn't justified. I think the product performs above my expectations and the one time I had to deal with customer service, I was satisfied. No complaints here but since we're talking about other bots, I ran an open source one over an extended amount of time (6 months) with no issues, no bans - I use the same accounts here. The speed of this bot and the flexibility is what brought me here.

Crypto at an adjusted price would be appealing to me. I buy crypto often with throw away money as an "investment" so I don't really feel the pain when I use crypto to buy things. Have you considered accepting other forms? Monero for example?

Candidly, the marketplace sounds like a really good idea and I hope it's successful. That said, we can look at other forums with established markets to see how long the market was trashed after ladder though so I am cautiously optimistic.


they can produce an infinite amount of keys, dont see how it could be a supply issue. i have heard him say explicitly that if it wasnt for the reseller he would have only the lifetime option, not the monthly one. there paypal account was capped out. they had to refund a bunch of people through paypal. they are making plenty of money. must just be an increase in demand and perhaps they dont want it to be available to the masses because it will increase the odds of banning for the rest of us

Any type of supply would be a self imposed soft/hard cap. Think diamonds or even maple syrup price and the amount those items are driven up by those who control the supply. Lifetime models are always risky, at some point the lifetime members become a real drag on your product.
 

kyo_fr

New member
When the 8pp team ilv, the 7pp team follows the ilv , automatic rush, automatic quest automatic ilv ,The lifetime key can definitely be worth more than $1,000
 

The Horadric Cube

Administrator
Staff member
If the 300$ package included both bot and tool I think more ppl would go for it, I know I would
Well if you need to save money the bulk discount is $250 per key for 10 keys it would be like $2500, we do not plan on offering lifetime forever so we are really providing it as a means to help out with development costs and also get some good long term users that can appreciate this software. It is best to not include other stuff into the price as i was told we would have to charge separate fee for the class config editor interface instead of hiding that and the marketplace stuff and such as bonus into the price because it doesn't help overall sales, i am not sure what class config editor interface tool is worth but i will give any user that signs up through our network of sites a key to it as included with their purchase as a perk of purchasing from us. There will be a shop on afkbots shortly as well i think we'll start with crypto in/out also for establishing an instant payout marketplace otherwise using fiat for credits and such it gets hairy and on revamped the marketplace there would not be able to do crypto payout without violating unlicensed crypto exchange regulation laws. As someone could buy off themselves to get paid out in crypto after, another issues is them filing a chargeback which is not a huge issue as we have transaction log to show card processor data of the signup info and delivery access which it doesn't really matter when you have a high risk merchant account that is already fine with automation software membership site.

i do think having multiple marketplaces to let users stream their loot logs into would be cool too so they expand their chances of finding a buyer for their items, but we have item shops already wanting to buy so it would make sense to have crypto in place so i think we could easily let users cashout crypto on a crypto only marketplace, but revamped may not be able to cashout for awhile might be best off as an option to let people reuse their credits on bot keys like they'd be able to basically pay for their botting with selling enough items or services as well since it's a listing option.
 

esyouele

Member
Well if you need to save money the bulk discount is $250 per key for 10 keys it would be like $2500, we do not plan on offering lifetime forever so we are really providing it as a means to help out with development costs and also get some good long term users that can appreciate this software. It is best to not include other stuff into the price as i was told we would have to charge separate fee for the class config editor interface instead of hiding that and the marketplace stuff and such as bonus into the price because it doesn't help overall sales, i am not sure what class config editor interface tool is worth but i will give any user that signs up through our network of sites a key to it as included with their purchase as a perk of purchasing from us. There will be a shop on afkbots shortly as well i think we'll start with crypto in/out also for establishing an instant payout marketplace otherwise using fiat for credits and such it gets hairy and on revamped the marketplace there would not be able to do crypto payout without violating unlicensed crypto exchange regulation laws. As someone could buy off themselves to get paid out in crypto after, another issues is them filing a chargeback which is not a huge issue as we have transaction log to show card processor data of the signup info and delivery access which it doesn't really matter when you have a high risk merchant account that is already fine with automation software membership site.

i do think having multiple marketplaces to let users stream their loot logs into would be cool too so they expand their chances of finding a buyer for their items, but we have item shops already wanting to buy so it would make sense to have crypto in place so i think we could easily let users cashout crypto on a crypto only marketplace, but revamped may not be able to cashout for awhile might be best off as an option to let people reuse their credits on bot keys like they'd be able to basically pay for their botting with selling enough items or services as well since it's a listing option.
Will lifetime license purchasers get the config editor for free when they sign up for the marketplace? I'm not too clear on this.

Is the marketplace being tested by the Devs right now?
 

The Horadric Cube

Administrator
Staff member
Will lifetime license purchasers get the config editor for free when they sign up for the marketplace? I'm not too clear on this.

Is the marketplace being tested by the Devs right now?
Lifetime users will get the config editor free yes, marketplace is being tested by any users who want to list items they have to be manually approved by staff but go ahead https://revamped.app/shop/member you should see marketplace tab, unless you are lite user i think we not allowing lite users to list items because it can cause complication if user is not serious seller we are looking for serious sellers for supplying item shops that will be buying all the items really probably before other users will i would think. I am also thinking of adding crypto marketplace for users to list on as well if they want to earn crypto pay out it can not be done on the revamped site because that is break regulation, at least we can let user earn credits to pay for their keys and such.
 

esyouele

Member
Lifetime users will get the config editor free yes, marketplace is being tested by any users who want to list items they have to be manually approved by staff but go ahead https://revamped.app/shop/member you should see marketplace tab, unless you are lite user i think we not allowing lite users to list items because it can cause complication if user is not serious seller we are looking for serious sellers for supplying item shops that will be buying all the items really probably before other users will i would think. I am also thinking of adding crypto marketplace for users to list on as well if they want to earn crypto pay out it can not be done on the revamped site because that is break regulation, at least we can let user earn credits to pay for their keys and such.
I see it now. Thank you.

Crypto payout would be great. You can also add Mythic+ caries in WoW, as well as gold, and other services.
 
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